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  Is it a sign from Jehovah or just irony?

  by dissonance_resolved in

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  so i signed up to volunteer at a local urban community center- first time i've ever volunteered for a non-jw effort.

  i thought i would end up cleaning, organizing, something like that, but the first thing they wanted us to do was go door to door in the neighborhood handing out flyers!

  face palm...

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  Nathan Natas

  Yeah, clearly the Lord has a plan for you; it's just not one you're going to be thrilled with. SUBMIT!
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  why

  by therevealer in

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  if they are going to try to guess what jesus should look like why don't they or haven't they created artwork that they would use to consistently show him as the same guy.

  this one is from sept wt.

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  You want he should look like a Jew?

  OK, he looks like a Jew now!

  
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  Feeling Guilty

  by naazira in

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  i am feeling gulity because i will not be going to the summer convention.

  i just can not sit through the talks they are sooo boring.

  im cutting off all contact with the witnesses.

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  You have to fill that time with something of value to you, you shouldn't leave that time empty.

  TIME heals, in large doses.
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  Family is drawing the line in the sand

  by dissonance_resolved in

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  2. friends

  so my family has obviously been noticing over the past several months that i've been missing meetings and fs.

  i've had excuses sometimes, but not others, so my parents are definitely getting that this is more than a long bout of illnesses or fatigue.

  i just received an email invitation to join them in service this weekend.

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  Tell them you will be there and then don't show up.

  That will show them how much control over you they have.

  If pressed for an excuse, just say "something came up, sorry" and let it go at that.
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  God will forgive me....apparently

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i left the jws and went to a baptist church which was far better than anything i'd known before having been born into the dangerous cult of the watchtower corporation.. having travelled a path of spirituallity i have concluded that there is no god evident to me.

  evolution?

  i have no idea...i just live my life knowing that when i die there is nothing after it.

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  You are forgiven. Go your way, and believe no more.
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  Former Long Time Elder, part 3

  by James Jackson in

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  2. friends

  to answer some of your questions.

  i phone my son on thursday and was able to help him get his paper work in order for, get this: "college".

  we're good.. the wife and i have about 10 family members that are jw's as well as over 12 close friends, 100's of friends in 5 states.

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  ShirleyW: HELLO!

  You said, "... we had a Circuit Servant, Bro., Wiegel, in the early 70's..."

  Shirley, my dear, YOU are the first person other then I who has mentioned good ol' pain-in-the-ass "Weasel Weigel"!!! It it SUCH a pleasure to find even one person with whom I shared a fleeting bit of reality!

  Weasel was widely disliked, so it figures he has moved up the ranks in the JW pantheon. Do you recall the really nice CS who followed Weasel. He was Paul "somebody" - I can't think oh his name right now - I'll call the White House and ask what I was thinking... Haviland! Yes, I think he was Paul Haviland! A really NICE guy, obviously not Watchtower mgmt material...
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  Theists - Why does Morality require the existence of God?

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "without god in your life, you cannot have a moral compass",,,, please explain to me why you think that should be so?

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  I'm an atheist. I have no fear of judgemnt day.

  "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" says NOTHING about god.

  If god-based morality is superior, why is it so ineffective?

  The phrase "having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power" is an indictment of the majority of "god-fearing" people of the world.

  I agree with Ayn Rand that informed self-interest is a perfect foundation for morality.
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  Dat da da da: Justitia Themis Law School Graduate

  by crmsicl in

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  2. friends

  congratulations to justitia themis on all her hard work at putting herself through law school.

  after being raised in the watchtower organization and having survived all of what that entails she has picked up the pieces, analyzed her strengths and has made choices to better herself and the community.. .

  i am so proud of her.

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  Congratulations Justitia! This is an excellent accomplishment!
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  Former, Long Time Part 2

  by James Jackson in

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  first of all thanks for all the kind words!!!

  i am over whelmed by the responses.

  i work very hard through the week and the only time i can reply is in the early morning hours, i read the respones on my iphone through out the day, if there was a way to log on with the phone, i would.

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  Nathan Natas

  an alternative definition of BORG = Brooklyn Organization.

  add'l defs:

  Dub = the ultimate contraction of "Jay Double U" (JW)

  When you pray to "Jehovah" and "Jesus," what do you imagine is happening? Do you think real entities are hearing you, or do you realize that you are talking to yourself?
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  The significance and purpose of BAPTISM - new article

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ive just published a new article on my website, this time about about the subject of baptism.

  its titled the significance and purpose of baptism.

  its divided in 5 parts:.

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  EdenOne, Steve2 is a man of discernment - you cannot turn your back on the WT unless you first join it.